In this episode of Intercross the Podcast, we sit down with Patrick Youssef, the ICRC Deputy Regional Director in Africa. With media attention focused on the famine in Somalia, South Sudan, Yemen and Nigeria, Patrick helps us dive deeper into one of the areas of crisis, the Lake Chad region. What's driving the chronic fragility in Lake Chad? How do you rebuild the eroding sense of solidarity in communities? How is ICRC operating in the area? And with such dire headlines dominating, how does one remain hopeful? Hosted by Niki Clark and Sara Owens.